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		<title>Comment on CakePHP vs Django dilemma by Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 00:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Django is the easiest of them all to learn &quot;by a long way&quot; as long as you already know the languages of each. Very easy to learn and great free books. Sadly not any good vids like Rails has but the Django book is VERY GOOD! Believe me it is well done. Every bit as good as the Rails stuff on Lynda.com.

I bet any coder can learn the entire Django framework in a month enough to start using it with reference materials handy! I don&#039;t think you can do that with Rails myself.

I like Ruby and Rails but I find it slower to work with that is the problem. Yes it is elegant but it is slower. Ruby is an addictive language not for easy syntax like Python but because you feel special you understood it&#039;s quirks and can tell everyone about them. Ruby is much more like Perl than Python will ever be. They are a like in many ways Python &amp; Ruby. Both great lanuages for the web and both updating so don&#039;t jump out of one before you check roadmaps etc.

PHP has far to much went down the road of being for non trained programmers. Many users never did computer science as a degree. So it has always catered for this. Python and Ruby are more appreciated by us that did the computer science degrees over the fell into web dev people who favour PHP I think. PHP is good cake is good they can do most of what the others can but would I use it over Rails and Django NO WAY!

Django Template system is faster than any of the others it is much freer. Rails likes to think CSS and JS are part of it which is silly because when I work I have a CSS/JS/JQuery guy who does my templates then I code into them. The last thing I bloody want is those art types in my code! So thank you django for getting these roles split. Imagine a plumber trying put his pipes next to your electrics!

I have also looked at CF on Wheels it is like Rails and Django but for Cold Fusion. Cold what I hear you say lol. CF is just not good now...very slow also and cumbersome to install on Linux and you can&#039;t even get on BSD easy AFAIK. What idiot uses a Win box as a web server in 2011! The language is a joke of tags very unsuitable to frame working. They have this CF script rubbish. I think they are moving to it but who cares it is too expensive and not enough users and free stuff. It is poor stay away.

Oh Java is awesome not talked about it - if your in enterprise level but most of us are not so no need to discuss it here.

So your choice is Django &amp; Rails if you are in small-medium work and need things done very fast and changed very often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Django is the easiest of them all to learn &#8220;by a long way&#8221; as long as you already know the languages of each. Very easy to learn and great free books. Sadly not any good vids like Rails has but the Django book is VERY GOOD! Believe me it is well done. Every bit as good as the Rails stuff on Lynda.com.</p>
<p>I bet any coder can learn the entire Django framework in a month enough to start using it with reference materials handy! I don&#8217;t think you can do that with Rails myself.</p>
<p>I like Ruby and Rails but I find it slower to work with that is the problem. Yes it is elegant but it is slower. Ruby is an addictive language not for easy syntax like Python but because you feel special you understood it&#8217;s quirks and can tell everyone about them. Ruby is much more like Perl than Python will ever be. They are a like in many ways Python &#038; Ruby. Both great lanuages for the web and both updating so don&#8217;t jump out of one before you check roadmaps etc.</p>
<p>PHP has far to much went down the road of being for non trained programmers. Many users never did computer science as a degree. So it has always catered for this. Python and Ruby are more appreciated by us that did the computer science degrees over the fell into web dev people who favour PHP I think. PHP is good cake is good they can do most of what the others can but would I use it over Rails and Django NO WAY!</p>
<p>Django Template system is faster than any of the others it is much freer. Rails likes to think CSS and JS are part of it which is silly because when I work I have a CSS/JS/JQuery guy who does my templates then I code into them. The last thing I bloody want is those art types in my code! So thank you django for getting these roles split. Imagine a plumber trying put his pipes next to your electrics!</p>
<p>I have also looked at CF on Wheels it is like Rails and Django but for Cold Fusion. Cold what I hear you say lol. CF is just not good now&#8230;very slow also and cumbersome to install on Linux and you can&#8217;t even get on BSD easy AFAIK. What idiot uses a Win box as a web server in 2011! The language is a joke of tags very unsuitable to frame working. They have this CF script rubbish. I think they are moving to it but who cares it is too expensive and not enough users and free stuff. It is poor stay away.</p>
<p>Oh Java is awesome not talked about it &#8211; if your in enterprise level but most of us are not so no need to discuss it here.</p>
<p>So your choice is Django &#038; Rails if you are in small-medium work and need things done very fast and changed very often.</p>
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		<title>Comment on define: ronin. &#8220;masterless samurai&#8221;. by Warmly Dressed Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.relevancefound.com/2011/03/define-ronin-masterless-samurai/comment-page-1/#comment-11895</link>
		<dc:creator>Warmly Dressed Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economics comedian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVp8UGjECt4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economics comedian<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVp8UGjECt4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVp8UGjECt4</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on define: ronin. &#8220;masterless samurai&#8221;. by izamryan</title>
		<link>http://www.relevancefound.com/2011/03/define-ronin-masterless-samurai/comment-page-1/#comment-11688</link>
		<dc:creator>izamryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, don&#039;t give up your day job by any means,

But there&#039;s this great stand-up comedy club here in Singers where I can probably get you a slot if you&#039;re interested ... Let me know kk Mr Wolfe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, don&#8217;t give up your day job by any means,</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s this great stand-up comedy club here in Singers where I can probably get you a slot if you&#8217;re interested &#8230; Let me know kk Mr Wolfe!</p>
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		<title>Comment on define: ronin. &#8220;masterless samurai&#8221;. by Warmly Dressed Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.relevancefound.com/2011/03/define-ronin-masterless-samurai/comment-page-1/#comment-11687</link>
		<dc:creator>Warmly Dressed Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Mr Black Swan is my cousin but I hate him. He&#039;s got a big butt and a limp. He comes visiting out of the blue but quite rarely.

These are awful stat-fin jokes. My apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mr Black Swan is my cousin but I hate him. He&#8217;s got a big butt and a limp. He comes visiting out of the blue but quite rarely.</p>
<p>These are awful stat-fin jokes. My apologies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on define: ronin. &#8220;masterless samurai&#8221;. by izamryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>izamryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed they are Mr Black Sheep,

Indeed they are! Hey, are you related to Black Swan and Glow In The Dark Swan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed they are Mr Black Sheep,</p>
<p>Indeed they are! Hey, are you related to Black Swan and Glow In The Dark Swan?</p>
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		<title>Comment on define: ronin. &#8220;masterless samurai&#8221;. by Warmly Dressed Wolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warmly Dressed Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sheeple are our greatest asset.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sheeple are our greatest asset.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Overbudget &amp; overdue &#8211; TAIB Airport Mall by Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 04:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://jaggededge01.blogspot.com/

The Amazing Adventure of TAIB and The Airport Mall...

read all about it.</description>
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<p>The Amazing Adventure of TAIB and The Airport Mall&#8230;</p>
<p>read all about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CakePHP vs Django dilemma by Boris Barroso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris Barroso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used a lot in the past CakePHP but I didn&#039;t like the framework so much when I tried Ruby on Rails I just never looked back, sometimes I work with PHP using CodeIgniter but I prefer Ruby.  Rails might be slow but belive me when it&#039;s deployed it&#039;s a lot faster. One thing that ROR beats CakePHP and Django is the comunity, you will find a lot more documentation, tutorials and videos, that it&#039;s really important to learn something new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used a lot in the past CakePHP but I didn&#8217;t like the framework so much when I tried Ruby on Rails I just never looked back, sometimes I work with PHP using CodeIgniter but I prefer Ruby.  Rails might be slow but belive me when it&#8217;s deployed it&#8217;s a lot faster. One thing that ROR beats CakePHP and Django is the comunity, you will find a lot more documentation, tutorials and videos, that it&#8217;s really important to learn something new.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention CakePHP vs Django dilemma &#124; Relevance Found -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Matthew J Morrison, djangobot. djangobot said: CakePHP vs Django dilemma | Relevance Found <a href="http://bit.ly/eF9fsX" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/eF9fsX</a> #django [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on CakePHP vs Django dilemma by P.A.Rochat</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.A.Rochat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use CakePHP. I tried Django, it seems awesome but I preferred the easy to install everywhere CakePHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use CakePHP. I tried Django, it seems awesome but I preferred the easy to install everywhere CakePHP.</p>
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